400NitroExpress - JJ is out of the office for another couple of weeks or so, so I spoke with George Caswell. His (Mr. Caswells) advice is that the Barnes Triple Shocks are OK, while the monolithics are too hard. The Triple Shocks are a newer design than the older X bullets and have grooves cut into them for "relief" to reduce pressures. I suspect that modification made them OK for DRs as well. I'll stay away from the monolithics. Thanks again for the heads up. Pilgrim