Hi,

I've had limited experience with the cartridge guns, having shot Curly's a few times. But I've owned a 58 ML for over a year now. It groups well at 50 yards with 100gr of Goex FF and .570 Speer round balls. My next project is to try with with 777 and conicals and other bullets. Past 100grs it crosses so I would not feel comfortable taking it for dangerous game, though I'm curious to shoot either black bear or a red stag with it.

They are really a good deal for the price. Though I find my a bit too muzzle heavy, the trigers are creepy, and I'd like to get different sights on it. But part of me resists spending another $300-400 on a gun that did not cost much more than that...