NitroX Thanks.....will try to find out where i can get that.

Seem i have initiated some kind of bloody war here!

Well.....

I think BP and Nitro are two entirely different kettles of fish.......

Nitro/smokeless is simply the standard,modern use powder,is it not?

BP is a whole other story.....we are talking historic legendary rounds versus ones which though famed,came towards the end of the great hunts and explorations.

If we look at the greatest hunters,and explorers,we see that they did their work using BP and even rather worryingly muzzle loaders, when faced with huge and angry game.

So far it seems the 4 bore is the biggest round in the express guns,at least in existent use/past use.

It also appears that this is so hard to fire,that a 4 bore nitro version isnt even possible in a shoulder gun.(24.5mm x 98mm....yes? well who would be able to fire this in a nitro version?)

So with nitro,we stand in a time with very restricted hunting, and only the very wealthy indeed being able to hunt the huge game,such as Rhino and Ele.

Has anyone here actually hunted ele? and succeeded? with what round? what size was your ele?......early hunters often talked of 5-6 ton bulls.

BP is actually the main cause behind the lack of ele and such left to hunt!.......there was no nitro,back when......

But then so excessive were the big rounds, that they were/are very hard to use,it seems.

Give your opinions......what would knock down a 6 ton bull better,a 4 bore ball/conical, or a .600 NE round of 900g? or up it if you wish...a 2 bore ball/conical, versus a .700 NE round of 1000g+?

Usually people say if something works it doesnt need fixing.....the BP's worked well enough to leave us with little left to hunt,and many many famous stories. Nitro was handiest in its smokeless properties surely,more so than anything else? I am sure Nitro will be abandoned for something else, god only knows what.....laser double anyone? not for me thanks!

Cheers

Ben