Yes, i looked at them. I am leaning toward something at Champlin's because of their reputation and honest assessment by JJ. I am a little wary of buying an older double from someone else- thought they may be as reputable.

My local shop has a Cogswell & Harrison in 450/400 but can't tell me much about it at all- what was it regulated to etc., the gun shop owner knows less about doubles than I do!

450/400 and 470- interesting. Thanks for the input.