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Bulldog: Keep in mind that I have not personally handled this gun. The Lang number is 14206. George called me to discuss the Webley number, which he gave as 11458 and said it was on the left side of the fore-end loop. Were it not there, he wouldn't have called me about this gun. I double checked the location with him because it's the earliest gun I've heard of with the Webley number in that location. The earlier guns have the number on the short rib, like Curl's Gibbs. The later guns like mine have it on the left side of the loop. The numbers on the loop are stamped hard up against the barrels. Unless you know it's there when you go to look, you won't see it. As represented, this gun has been redone, probably in England, including re-blacking. That means the barrels have been struck-off. I discussed Fred's Holland accident at some length with Ross Seyfried. He was adamant that such problems have been confined to .450 and above. He clearly stated that he has never heard of such a problem with anything .450/.400 down. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |