Well after some thought I decided to follow the advice and now have a Lefever Nitro Special, 24" double SXS open choke 12 gauge with double triggers to practice with. Shooting Winchester 23/4" slugs, the the slugs print touching at 10 yards and 4" low and 4" apart at 25 yards. It's interesting to shoot this thing, after the first shot I'm not impressing myself with the speed of the second shot, but that will come.