We who live in Western NY are forced to hunt deer with rifled shotgun slugs. Believe you me slugs today are extremely accurate. I have several guns that will group 1-1/2 groups at 100yds. I'm trying to get a load for my 16 ga. drilling to use just for the fun of it. Its is truly amazing what a 12 gage Copper Solid will penetrate. I really am surprised that more people don't try them in Africa. I know ,I know there not a double rifle