Well, I am through with Griffin and Howe. My first communication was to their CEO. That got referred to someone else for response. I was informed that the DR on their site was not the sample they would have at the conventions. I pushed him further, and noted that I was interested in THE rifle on their site listed for sale.

I got a note back saying it was "unavailable". I replied that I needed to know if unavailable meant it had been sold. I was referred to the CEO, the first person I contacted.

I sent an e-mail to the CEO asking if the rifle had been sold. Crickets chirping. No response.

I then sent the string of e-mails to a person at Griffin and Howe that got things done, and even dropped a name of a current customer, who gave me permission to use his name. No response.

My take on all this? In my opinion, they do not have the rifles they list for sale. That is not a company I have any desire to deal with.