DUGABOY1: Thanks...lot's to learn on the DR side. I come to this forum humbled by all of your knowledge and hope to learn and be mentored along the way if it is alright. I miss the passion of shooting on the bolt side the way that I think I would in a DR (though I have yet to shoot one, to be honest). A bolt is strictly a tool to me; while a DR, well that is passion and art and goosebumps! ScottW