.500Nitro: I am of the same opinion regarding the case hardened. If not done well it can look cheap or at least not look of the quality one would expect at the prices we would pay for a good DR. I doubt Butch would put out anything that didn't say "quality" though. It will be interesting to see the case hardened anyway. BTW are you gents going to Dallas or Reno, if either? I think my wife wants to go, so that pretty much means Dallas due to cost being cheaper. Take care, ScottW