RGP, for the record Craig Boddington is widley regarded as one of the most experienced hunters, in africa or anywhere for that matter, in the entire WORLD. I am amazed that you have never heard of him. He has written many good books on the subject of hunting and safari hunting in particular, as well as many books on caliber/rifle selection. You should look up some of his work I think you'd enjoy it. And Dr. Wayne Van Zwoll is not exactly new to the hunting game either. Also since we are talking about how many shots you can take at a charging animal, then as I stated already the "advantage" of a bolt gun's capacity is null and void. Anyways a double would always be my choice for many of the same erasons people posted in reply to my post, and simply because I like them. Anyways good shootin:) P.S. 500grains, I dont know about you but I would call being able to hit little pumpkins at 50 yds. offhand as pretty careful/well aimed. They were not simply shooting as fast as they could they were hitting the targets. I figured you guys would like the post, after all this is a double rifle forum.