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tinker I think you brught up something I didn't see in the AR forum and that is Oily barrels or chambers. I know that is deadly. FYI, the Woodleigh Steel jaket solids are fraction undersize. From the testing I have done I still load 1 or 2 grains nder for Solids over what I load for the SN's Also, the taper on a Woodleigh Bullet that is designed for DR's starts WELL before the cannelure, not at the Cannelure as you say the Hornady does (ie 470 etc). mbogo375 Thanks for the comments. Re "but with old barrel steel of dubious origin how can you ever be 100% certain." That is why I don't take any chances with my guns - I can't afford to wipe out a set of barrels so once I stick to what works and generally don't stuff around once I have it working. FYI, I don't work on them as in a Gunsmith sense, I just like shooting them but I do tend to do one hell of a lot of study, reading, research all about the old days etc + I had a lot of verbal info given to me by 2 people in particular which helped when buying guns. 500 Nitro |