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400NitroExpress Yep, I think we have very similar tastes - Leonard is the other one you correctly pointed out. On thing would say - as much as I get on well with Americans and do alot of business with US companies, it amazed me how long it took for people in the US who were interested in English guns to move away from buying "names". I think books like the Dallas "Holland book" where he states all guns made prior to 1892 were made by Scott (or one of the configurations of the brothers W, C Scott etc etc). Re "DRs with most of the other top fastener types (cross bolt, hidden Holland type, etc.) that were off face, but not Webley screw grips." Some of it has to do with the Cartridge as well - I think Hollands are good but people always seem to want to overload doubles and make them HV Tacholers with pressure levels like the WSM and WSSM cartridges. I prefer to stay with the heavy bullet, lower velocity - just look at NitroX's post on the Cull - his 9.3 x 74R was doing 2170 or something like that. The Holland .470 recently. PHV-1 you say would be identical to the Army & Navy on the right of the pictures above. I do think that the FIT and FINISH or a true Holland Sidelock is better than other guns - in general. In regards to names, I liked a description a friend in the US gave me of Rigby's guns and how to view them. Rigby Pre 1920ish - Rigby Bissell Rising Third bite Rigby Post1920ish - Webley Screw Grips and PHV1's Paul Roberts Rigby's - again split into Early and Late ones (we think quality drpped off the lnger he had the name) Mexican Rigby's - the name used after the US person purchased the name. Anyway, will have to compare photos sometime. 500 Nitro |