Thank you. And Bertram has a new US distributor, which is promising. I went with the 500/416 brass because it was so inexpensive...100 cases for $49 US$. So if these work, I'll be well ahead of paying the current ~$100+ for 20 cases. I sure wish Hornady would get back in the game with at 450 3.25".

I know what you mean about 'safe spots' as I've been cleaning my gunroom and keep finding forgotten 'safe spots'.