I have two of these guns.

Greener Martini S1 grade Marked simply 500 EXP on bottom of barrel with Enfield rifling

Westley Richards Pat 1871 Patent Express rifle marked for No.2 case barrel proofed for 38 balls and Whitworth rifled.

Both gun acquired from fellows here on NE.com.

My interest is of course is the single shot.

However, I look at these guns-doubles and singles as more than antique pretty faces to decorate my gun safe. To me they they are a challenge to shoot and hunt with.

I took the Greener on my 70th birthday Moose. I was fully prepared to use it, but the moose did not present itself close enough and I had to use my Mauser 338/06 AI.

My wish when I said I thought that it would be nice if some one wrote on the .500 Express, was looking modern loading data on this chambering so I can use them hunting.

If I can get this WR 1871 to shoot reasonably accurate 25 yards, I will take it to Manitoba in September for my bear hunt. I have the issue of Whitworth barrel with sewer pipe bore.

If not the Greener will make the trip.

I would do my part for two chapters and document what I have to make these two guns shoot