Years ago I owned Jack Lott's 8 BORE Rodda double rifle. It weighed 17 pounds and was chambered for the brass case. I owned a lot of under lever hammer double rifles and this one was the hardest to cock of any of them! I damaged my right thumb working on an antique car and could only cock the rifle using the palm of my hand. I never did get to shoot that rifle, always wished I would have. I loved to shoot an 8 BORE double rifle. A friend of mine owned 14 of them!