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the 450 NE with its original ballistic is good for anything but you dont need so much also for the biggest north american game. the 45-120 have a maximum CIP pressure of 2200 bar. here you have pressure testet loads for this cartridge all under 2200 bar max, under CIP, the proof house mellrichstadt have a test barrel a 485 grains lead bullet makes 555 m/sec / 1820 f/sec giving an energy of 3577 ft lbf /4851 joule to compare 405 Win 3,236 ft lbf /4,387 J 9,3x74R 3,434 ft lbf / 4,656 J 450 NE 4,930 ft lbf / 6,680 J I would say this is just rigth for the biggest american game grizzly, polar bear, buffalo, moose a lot of power but no overkill sure, you can build a 45/70 but when I have to make the work it must be something extraordinary, 70/150 here with .577 snider to compare interesting big bore |