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My 500-450 3-1/2" BPE is good for anything I'd get to hunt here in North America I was shooting the 20bore Purdey this weekend. It's good for any deer or antelope, hog or black bear. The 16bore is similar but more power. I'd really like a slender 30 caliber double rifle, my 8mm ejector rifle was fantastic. Some day when I get caught up on expenses for the kids I'll get that 30 caliber SxS |