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This site was pretty good (and hoping reliable) for pressure specs. http://kwk.us/pressures.html I ended up using the rim diameters and case diameters as I didn't have the internal measurements but this will hopefully be apples and apples with F=pxA Here are the back thrust numbers for a number of cartridges found in the Valmet with rim diameters. 9.3x74R 10290 for 49k 30-06 10620 for 59k 12ga 6000 for 12k 450-400 12000 for 40k If we use case diameters instead: 9.3x74R 8497 30-06 10620 12ga 9540 (looked at 19k proof) 450-400 9292 I don't think that I messed up any of the math and the case diameter numbers seem more reliable (and in line) with cartridges chambered in doubles. Good luck. Tom Tom |