Thanks. I absolutely love the 470NE.

I was initially a bit hesitant about that cartridge, but it was fine with my magnum shoulder pad.

At 50 yards I am getting virtually overlapping making a figure 8, as long as I do my part.

The sxs 9.3x74 has about 3/8" between the holes in the target at 50yds.

I did quite a bit of reading on Sabatti, and am aware of their regulation issues a while back. I talked to a few current owners including a guide that writes a blog on his overseas hunts before taking the plunge.

Got the 9.3 first, felt very happy with the fit and finish. Decided to get the o/u, as I love o/u shotguns. And again was very pleased.