Here is the short version of a longer story to my above posts:
Got a set of “standard” CH4D 577/500 No2 dies with the rifle, no shell holder.

The “standard” dies are likely dimensioned to the circa 1900 Kynoch drawings and excessively resize the cases (too much shoulder setback and case body resizing, not uncommon because there was no standardization in 1870’s-1880’s Black Powder Express dimensions. Just does not work too well to go “partial resizing” with the 577/500 No2 cases.

Needed to get a shellholder, and for obsolete BPE cases that often require basic cases I wanted to get a file type trim die to the fired cases.
You can follow the story as to RCBS..........what a shame.

As is I at least have a shellholder.....can you spell goat rope?

I did ask RCBS originally because over 40 years I had found that the “old RCBS” dies could not be equalled in dimension, interior polish, and finish. They far exceeded CH, Hornady, and Redding production or custom dies.
Well, so much for that.....goodbye RCBS.

Will try CH4D for a custom trim die from my fired cases, I hope that their quality equals the old RCBS and exceeds what I had found in late production CH4D products.
- Mike