...you're welcome...

...respectfully, but i think that my point was merely that ph's have field insight about whether or not the 'rimmed' vs. 'non-rimmed' cartridge debate has any validity in dg hunting situations...without doubt, thys is a fine dg maker and jj is a top dg smith, but the issue here is failed extraction in stressful/less-than-ideal hunting situations...

...in any case, the ph's views would merely be another datapoint from which to frame your own thinking on the matter...i would think...

cheers,

te