Tony:

Not all of us are professional marksmen capable of shooting charging gorillas in urban environments. Quit tootin' your own horn!

I, unfortunately, need the bench to sight in my rifles... then I "confirm" with a couple of shots by using sticks or resting my left hand against the supports of the shed covering the bench... then a few off hand, too. Since my bench shooting, particularly with heavy rifles is done with my left hand (and not a sand bag, which is under my hand) supporting the rifle and no rear pad, I find I'm pretty darn much in the ball park, i.e., the gun recoils as if I was holding "free". But make no doubt about it, a 500 grain bullet at almost 2300 fps, will get your attention from the bench, no matter how you hold it!

If we make it to DRSS together (I guess you got Rusty's e-mail), I will shoot my .450/400 against yours, off hand, for a beer? Two shots in 3 seconds? I think I know what the results will be, but what's the price of a Blue Ribbon?