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Rigbymauser/AKMike As you appear to have Hoyem and Fleming I can only support your observations that it would appear to be a necked down .577 The shorter case would probably be Westley Richards but the longer case may, as you say have a Scottish connection The .500 Ex on the barrel flats is clearly of little use Good luck with your Africa trip, you certainly have a top class calibre/ rifle combination for your trip Good luck Tony |