It was an ejector gun and it was brand new. He said they (owner and the guy I spoke with) went to the guy's shop in Italy and picked out the wood blanks and basically had the gun built (2 identical). Both guns were in Thomasville, GA. He said it was a great gun and told me I could go look at a Heym in AL (named a store that had them in stock). He said he preferred the Italian gun over the German ones. He was very nice, professional and not down on any brand. - I just Have to KNOW what I'm getting. 18k is alot to me.

No, I'm not stuck on 470 N.E. and I've never actually shot a double rifle. I do shoot A LOT though. I do want to get one that is a common caliber - though I plan to reload for it and probably cast the bullets also. I was thinking initially 470 or 500. I'd thought about a 450/400 - which I know would be adequate for most things this gun will acfually do (get fondled and sit in my gun safe 99% of the time). I will do my best to shoot lots of North American big game with it, but am not sure I will ever end up in Africa. Something about dropping huge cartridges in the chamber and closing the vault is just awesome. Really want either the 470 or 500, but would consider others at the right price. No, I can't justify the larger ones...

He had a Cogwell and Harrison in 500 n.e. for 20k. It felt nice, had great fit and finish and I didn't see any cracks or marks on the screws (we never talked serious about price on it). It was made in 1919 (listed on the same site that someone brought out). He suggested I not get a 500 n.e. as a first double. There were lots of english doubles there, but they quickly got out of my price range.

I'm almost positive I want ejectors, don't think I'll settle on a gun without them (try to correct me if I'm wrong). I guess fill me in more on calibers, Searcy's and what to watch for on English doubles. As I said - I'm listening. You can see I've been lurking here quietly years...

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