Gotcha - sorry.

Doesn't seem to matter which discipline we try, there is a lot of work involved in finding what works well, right off the bat in the learning curve. Once we do find what works, sifting through other individual rifles shotgun or handguns 'needs/demands' seems trivial - easy with certain elements in loading remaining constant.

This is very much like patch thickness/ball diameter ratios to bore and groove depth in ML's - easy stuff once you're at that level in loading - use the prescription and merely adjust powder charges a bit - then, as you know - bingo - we add another fairly easy 'recipe' to our book of knowledge!

For some of us, the 'trip' to mastering a particularly difficult 'subject' is the fun - the experimentation, both frustrating and rewarding. Afterwards we become bored with it and sell it to a friend, usually cheaper than we paid, just to get started on another 'trial'.