I will just say that I was born in a Hill country ranch house and lived in ranch country most of my life, now in my late 70s I can tell you that a big muledeer is in trouble at 200 yds when a man who knows his little iron sighted mod 94 Win lever action carbine chambered for 30-30 Win.

I built a S/S double rifle on a Browning BSS action with 20 inch barrels chambered for 30-30, that I used for following my lion and black bear dogs in New Mexico and I can tell you I never had to shoot a muledeer or lion twice, and it took care of black bear handily as well with the old 170 gr Win factory ammo, and killed muledeer at ranges up to about 200 yds or a little longer with ease. That is one double I wish I had not sold, but the guy who bought my dog string wanted the rifle as well, because he had hunted the dogs with me before an had seen what that little double would do!

In Europe the old 30-30 is designated 7.62x51mm and was popular in Europe for single shot and combination guns. Most popular in Germany for roe deer hunting.

A light double rifle chambered for 30-30 Win with good iron sights, and facility for a quick detachable illuminated 1-4X30mm scope would be a fine double rifle for general woods hunting anywhere in the world for deer size game!

I have a 20ga Lurona s/s shotgun that I’ve been thinking seriously about building another 30-30 double rifle with, and this thread has got me thinking again.