NitroX
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| 19/08/12 04:52 PM |
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Re: Ivan Carter - Double Rifle vs Bolt Action Rifle
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I don't know that there is any compelling proof that "EVERY PH wants a double".
No? EVERY single one I have hunted with or spoke too has wanted one. Except many can not afford one. Some argue viciously against doubles on the net. Why? Because of envy and not being able to afford one. Doubles are expensive and beyond many PHs incomes, especially the part-time ones doing very few clients. Some have DR's as a tip from a grateful generous client, or because the client is a gunmaker and it is good PR.
One of my PH's didn't have one. When asked he really wanted one. BUT only if it was a top grade sidelock H&H or equivalent. He had used one when working for the booking agency H&H used to have, and wanted nothing lesser now. I think he would be waiting a long time ...
I get many enquiries from PHs saying how can I source an affordable double rifle. Usually a bargain priced but good one! I usually have to tell them, those sorts of rifles good very fast when they pop up. The best bet for them if the plainer, modern rifles such as the Heym PH, a Merkel, a Chapuis, or a plainer V-C. Engraving or top wood isn't needed. I advise the second hand modern market sometimes turns up good deals.
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The very 'doubles' promoting video was edited to only show missed or ineffectual first shots but successful second shots. My point was that the video did not show any sequences where the second shot was also ineffectual which possibly happens more often than not or more often than we like to admit (with any style of weapon) i.e. there is no statistical reason to suppose a second shot is going to be more effectual that the first shot with any weapon. The animal maybe closer in a charge sequence but the second or subsequent shot/s must still hit the animal and then hit a vital or killing spot to stop the charge.
I think you find when hunting big game such as buffalo, certainly elephant, eland, scrub bulls etc etc, is the beasts rarely die with a single bullet quickly, unless spine or brain shot. Even my eland, heart shot, took several minutes lying down to bleed out and still require a second shot to get him to lie down.
I don't know your BG hunting experience (no offence meant) but my experience and certainly what I have witnessed is the larger the game on the upper side, they don't die quickly. Unless brain or spine shot.
Edited: I see on your profile hunting water buff. What was your experiences of these? Please include where the bullet was placed too? Calibre etc?
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Neither video would of course show fluffed shots where the PH or other personnel got hurt or the animal got away.
Or is shot by the client either .... I dare say ....
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A concern I have in watching various video footage of some double users is that sometimes they fire off a fast second shot irrespective of the animal showing signs of going down with the first and then of course are completely unloaded in the case of the animal getting up again or another animal causing problems. In other words they are reacting a little like the guy using a semi, keep pulling the trigger while the gun will fire.