Good one, Luv2safari! I know what you mean about the Lott! It can be brutal in a 9lb rifle, but it doesn't have to be brutal to do it's job properly! I've used two 458 LOTT rifles, and am in the process of re-chambering a Ruger No1 H 458 win mag to the lott chamber.

The Lott is very effecient, when loaded to the same ballistics as the 450 NE 3.25". With 480 gr softs, and solids from Woodliegh, loaded to 2150 fps, it will handle anything that walks on this Earth, yet is more magagable.

Contrary to popular belief, the 458 Win Mag was not designed to give the performance of the 470NE, but to duplicate the father of them all, the 450NE 3.25". It had to use a 500 gr bullet, in that small case to even have any hope of this performance. The 458 LOTT should be thought of as a 450NE 3.25", made to shoot in a bolt rifle!