doubleriflejack, to say people are ignorant just because they don't agree with you? if people don't like the gun based purely on aesthetics , don't they have a right to their opinion ? aren't the aesthetics an important part of good design ? it seems your vehement objections of others opinions is just displaying your own ignorance. chuckT.

I never said that anyone is ignorant because they don't agree with me, but anyone would agree, I think, that when a group of people insist on exerting no effort in understanding something, as you guys did, while continuing to, at length, poke fun at, and joke about that something they don't understand, it is clearly ignorance in their not understanding that thing. I never spoke a word about objecting to opinions of others, and would always encourage anyone to express their opinions about anything. This has nothing to do with opinions of others, it has to do with anyone being so narrow minded that they refuse to investigate, to learn the facts surrounding something, and they find need, in their ignorance, to poke fun at it. The guy from Germany did an excellent job in trying to shed some light on this subject, no doubt helping you all understand the points I was trying to make. Too bad a fellow American couldn't have done the same thing, rather then our depending on a foreigner to do so, while a groups of Americans show ignorance. That doesn't speak too highly of Americans, does it?
ChuckT, you need to take a deep breath!