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470Rigby Thanks. I would agree "that it is a form of Semi-Destructive Testing!" AND "you have no idea of whether the pressure came withing 1% of failing, or 200%!" However, I am still glad that the English proof the guns !!! Re the 30% over the HMSP, I have heard it said that proof now is LESS severe than it was in the early days. "Not much of a margin given the vagaries of temperature, bore size and bullet hardness/diameter/bearing surface etc." That is why I slug all of my bores before firing to make sure. I did a test on about 10 - 12 450/400's and only found 1 that was a true .408, however in talking to others, .406 - .412 have been found. Imagine IF someone put a .411 Monolithic in a .406 bore - probably a bit more than a 30% increase. AT least Woodleigh Steel solids have some "give" in them !!! Speak soon. 500 Nitro |