I thought the ammo savings would allow me to shoot it a lot more than the 470NE without getting into lots of reloading. the side by side is listed on gunsamerica: http://www.gunsamerica.com/963088668/Gun...458_WIN_MAG.htm

I considered a bolt gun in .458 as more reliable, perhaps a dakota rifle or such. Just made a deal in selling about $8k of some old firearms I have laying around not doing much. So I might could get a Merkel 470NE with not much more money used or get a fantastic bolt rifle straight out. I will post pics of my regulated 12 bore with rifled barrels in another thread. thanks