Always wanted a 470NE but the 458 seems to offer much the same. While I was searching for a 470NE, I came across a 458 that really stirred my interest and hence this post. Thanks in advance for your comments. I plan to start heading to africa/australia every other year. mostly plains game (have the double for that along with the bolt gun) but will probably do Buff hunt in each place so thats why the interest for hunting with a stopping rifle. I do most of other hunting with a rizzini wild express in 9.3x74R. I also have a double rifle in 12 bore, as well as other double shotguns.