I had an O.Geyger double in 8x60RS and liked it very much except for having to form cases from 9.3x74 brass. It shot into less than an inch consistently. Absolutely a BEST grade rifle in every sense. I removed the front claw base and had bases made for Leupold double dovetail rings. Was not quick removable as you had to take scope out of rings to remove but supremely accurate for a plains game rifle. Really hated parting with it. I also had a Chapius 9.3x74 that was really nice also. Sadly enough it's also gone but not forgotten.The Greener safety on the Geyger was particularly nice touch.