You can not have both. I want
my see through to come up like
a shot gun. With optics all I
have to do is keep my head errect
and it is there. A good gun
fitter can help. Many good rifle
people have no concept of gun
fit;they think that is just for
shotguns. If they start with the
"it fits in the elbow to the wrist"
thing run away and dont look back.
Find a qualified fitter.

Ken
San Antonio