It is just amazing really !

The thing on which caliber to get is the weight in each caliber , the 450NE may handle the best for there caliber , if the buyers handled them , or think like me the 450NE is a do all ,easy to get slugs and now brass , easy to load to & all you need unless your a Pro who needs a stopper or hunt on your own !

Should be able to do a slimer & handy 450NE , which beats out a 470NE , I think ?

But if they are heavy for cailber I would get the 500NE , which is a better whacker than the 470 !

Having said that , I have not seen the 470 do ant thing but fine work too .