THIS POST IS GENERAL AND NOT REPLYING TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR.

No one has suggested doing anything illegal here. It has always been stated that legal issues be ascertained BEFORE actually doing anything. This is only a discussion and is NOT illegal to discuss, thank God

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"Saw-offs" are not automatically criminals weapons. A gunsmith might alter the length of a barrel legally or after the owner has obtained the legal right to do so for all sorts of legal reasons.

I can't imagine a criminal going out and legally purchasing a Pedersoli .45/70 for $5000, then cutting off the barrel to create an imitation Howdah pistol. And also without permission, turning a legal rifle into an illegal pistol. Somehow I think he may just get a shotgun on the black market or steal one and saw that off. And probably all unlicensed too.

As this is a free and open forum and international forum it is NOT a problem to discuss things and even in the state of Victoria and Australia and the USA free speech still exists. It is concerning to me how often we hear or read of shooters that want to 'police themselves' usually over-interpretting the law or making it worse than it is. Usually the excuse is "so not as to set bad example in the press or otherwise".

You know the Jewish capo guards in the WW2 concentration and extermination camps helping the Nazis guard and ENFORCE the camps (10 Jewish guards to every 1 German guard

) probably thought the same thing.

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If the wrong people read it they can go and fuck themselves. Free speech is more important here.

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HOWDAHS. Anyone intending to actually convert a rifle into a shorter barrelled firearm please seek out your local firearms authorities to ensure what you intend to do can be legally done by you.

Hopefully that fixs the "concerns" of naysayers