400NitroExpress
(.400 member)
13/11/09 05:50 AM
Re: Lyon & Lyon of Calcutta DR's

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The bushings are a repair, the plates are blued and the action is case cloured.




That's normal and is not indicative of a repair. The dovetailed flanges of this type of striker bushing were usually blued rather than case-hardened with the action, for the same reason that discs are done the same way.

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The engraving on top or the fences does not continue onto the plates.




Same.

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I have now seen 3 other trade actions, that have the same distinct side bolsters.
(a Lanacster, an Osborne and a Lawn & Adler )
All of those guns did not have the plate style bushings.




Those are all Osbornes. Yes, they can differ. You're looking at a very early .450 Nitro (pre-1904), and the design details of most of these various trade makers' rifles were still changing then. For instance Webley had used shoe-lump barrels, but changed to chopper-lump in 1904/05.

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I would love to be able to send it to JJ or someone for inspection, just not possible.
It's a sh*t or Git type situation, and if the price is right, we can fix almost anything.




From long experience, unless the price is very, very low, that's an automatic pass, and I don't burn the gas to even go look. The irregularity in the left throat is a potentially serious problem. With no way to check it out in a shit or git situation, that alone is an automatic "git".

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The flats definitely had a V, CP, 450EX marks, right where the barrels go into the lumps,
there was another mark (very difficult to read)but on the barrel.
I think this was the GP Proof in script.
Does this follow your experience ?




The marks you describe are normal original London proof of a .450 Nitro under the 1887 rules. The mark that you're referring to is a lion rampant of the letters GP interlaced in a cypher. It's London's provisional proof mark that's stamped when the blanks are proved prior to building the gun, and have nothing to do with definitive (final) proof.



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