470Rigby
(.333 member)
09/05/04 12:32 AM
Re: HELP!! Amateur question Re: Army/Navy 450/400 3 1/4

Dakota

Army & Navy CSL (stands for Co-operative Society Limited) has it's origins in 1874 when a group of British Army and Navy officer decided that they were being "dudded" by their wine merhants(Nitrox take note!) and decided to form a buying co-operative and buy at wholesale prices.

In time, the business devoped and in addition to the original premises at Victoria Street, Westminster, branches were opened in Bombay, Calcutta and Karachi.

The range of goods sold eventually included just about everything an officer could want, including clothing, watches, saddles, golf clubs, campaign chairs. etc, including guns and amunition.

It was customary for officers going out to the British Colonies get themselves fully kitted out there.

Army & Navy were not Gunmakers, but outsourced from the Guntrade, including Winchester, Browning and some German makers.

Army & Navy double guns and rifles were generally sourced from the standard lines of British Gunmakers, but their Gun Department manager, Mr. Rodgers, actually designed and patented in his own right. A friend of mine has a very interesting Army & Navy sidelock shotgun, with an articulated "knuckle" that was designed by him. Very rare.

However, most of their clientele were "bargain hunters" and thus boxlock customers. The majority of Army & Navy DR's were built on Webley & Scott Screw Grip or the later PHV1 actions, arguably the finest A&D type boxlock rifle action ever.

Gunmakers like Rigby used them - what more endorsement would one need?

If "your" rifle is one of these and hasn't been monkeyed around with, you can be assured that it is a fine "weapon of the chase' that will stand you in good stead for many years to come.

AS for it's value, I reckon Mickey's got things covered.



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