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Quote: no secret at all: Sub caliber shank, thin ribs and not that many of them. wide nose with a bit of a curve on them as i find the square nosed ones ugly, this is just a project i have to do for myself, when there might be some time for it. my biggest job is to gather enough data to determin how small the shank should be, as everybody and their uncle apparently is going for saami or cip spec. which we know wont cut it with the gems we have at home in the cabinet, and also i feel quite strongly that it shouldent cost as much as everybody else is charging for them. so the two time consumers would be more data collecting and the testing on big nasty critters ![]() last part is the good part though. best peter |