9.3x57
(.450 member)
22/10/09 01:59 PM
OSR, Double Damage and Barnes' Response

Here is the response from Barnes regarding the use of their mono's in doubles.

Also, here is the contact info for Ty Herring at Barnes. Please direct any questions regarding the use of Barnes bullets in doubles to him @ tyh@barnesbullets.com

Here goes:

Barnes says, '...our position is that we "own" the African market. Every year at the SCI Reno show we have countless guides and PH's visit our booth and buy our products. These same folks recommend our products to thousands of their clients and we've not had a single complaint in regard to the so called OSR issue.

I believe the competition uses these forums in a desperate attempt to gain popularity by spreading these rumors without any facts to back up their claims. There is no doubt in my mind that folks are smart enough to see through the smoke and mirrors tricks these folks portray.

We did the testing required to prove our products don't harm the doubles rifles in question and posted it at the following link. I might also add that these pressures were determined with strain gauges mounted on the exterior of the barrels - confirming that the exterior stress on a given barrel is less using our Mono Metal Banded Solids compared to the Woodleigh FMJ and RNSP.

http://www.barnesbullets.com/resources/newsletters/september-2008-barnes-bullet-n/

Since the post in September of 2008 we have not had a single complaint in this regard. We consider this a non issue and again we encourage anyone to contact us should they feel they have a problem.

At this time we don't feel that further testing is required.'


Here is the link again if it doesn't work above:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/resources/newsletters/september-2008-barnes-bullet-n/

Scroll down to the appropriate article on the site.

By the way, I have no relationship of any kind with Barnes. In fact, I've never shot a game animal with a Barnes bullet, and have never worked for Barnes in any capacity and do not now. I am, merely, a curious gun enthusiast and have found this topic particularly interesting because of the committed, diehard and, most conspicuously, diametrically-opposed positions.

I would love to see documentation of the actual CAUSE of OSR by those who believe it is caused by Barnes bullets. I haven't seen any such thing yet in spite of the long and horse-carcass-kicking discussions. I have read statements that it has occured and Barnes bullets caused it, but I have never seen any documentation or proof that Barnes bullets caused it.

In fact, in spite of implications that pictures of OSR may be posted, I've actually never seen such a thing posted on this forum. Since this is arguably the world's finest "double forum", I am a bit frustrated by that. I am all thumbs with technology, but I find it pretty easy to post pix...

I am not denying that damage to doubles has occured by firing them, maybe with this bullet or with that, and I cannot assert that a Barnes bullet has never caused damage to a gun. I can, however, state that on this forum, I've never seen a shred of proof that any Barnes bullet ever damaged a double. That is not because a Barnes bullet never did cause damage {I have no idea if one did or didn't}, but rather, that no proof has been provided.

That's not an indictment of anyone's integrity, or insinuation that anyone has lied and it certainly is not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, it is merely a fact.



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