Dugaboy - I believe the Pen Solid, mentioned by Pierce appears to be a lead core'd 'solid' - not solid lead no jacket and not monocore solid copper - where'd THAT come from? In the picture, the jacket appears to be folded over the top of the bullet in the 'pointing' process - no it's not a pointed bullet, but an FMJ bullet with a flat nose. The bullet pictured with the description statement as being "on the left" is slightly riveted - that's the one that made 4 Cape Buffalo shoulders, while the one "on the right", penetrating full length of the bull, had nothing more than rifling marks on it's surface.

No one is advocating loading any .45/70 until primers flatten - where in the world did THAT come from?

As far as leaving the site just because of a loading disagreement - well, that's too bad. You have a lot of experience and a lot ot offer, just little, it seems, in loading for this round to it's potential, even at what would be deemed to be fairly low pressure, ie: 21,000 to 28,000PSI.

Note, with some powders, it will do the 400gr. @ 1,800fps at below 21,000PSI - I am extropolating that an added 2" of barrel might give in the vicinity of 50fps added speed - maybe not, maybe at under 21,000 PSI, it is producing only 1,780fps with a 400 or 415gr. bullet. - is that conservative enough? Buddy of mine used a 1,720fps laod with the 400gr. Speer in his Marlin - he hates recoil so loads it lightly, for moose every year. Every year he shoots exactly 1 shot at his bull moose - out to 200yards max range, his own imposed limit- an easy 2' high hold, the cross hairs just breaking air over it's back. He hits the moose in the middle of the lungs - an easy shot for anyone who is a shooter. His moose trip and fall at the shot - doesn't get much better than that.

I originally brought up the Pierce/Africa/Cape Buffalo escapade only to show the capability of the ctg. on large game, not to suggest the Baikal make the trip as the ultimate African Dangerous Game rifle.