Andreas - you are absolutely correct.

I do know the loads listed there for the .45/70, for use in the "86 Winchester only" are good ones, with the powdrs used. I also know those ballistics can be met and exceeded at pressures wellwithin the relm of the Baikal. Dugaboy refusal to acknowlede this either means he doesn't handload, or knows little to knothing about handloading that particualar round.
Dugaboy is grasping at conjecture and outright fiction to backup his erronious statements. His guess at the pressure limits of the Baikal were incorrect and he's not backing off that crap. He knows little about loading, or his knowledge about loading that round is restricted or he'd know that any .45/70 will produce over 1,800fps with 400gr. bullets - with pressures at the 20,000PSI range. Just look further up this thread - I listed a bunch of them form several different manuals - loads that will put that Baikal into the 'stopper' field for big bears. Yes - big bears.

Care to guess at the ballistics of the .450 Alaskan, Harold Johnson's baby? Harold Johnson's favourite bear STOPPER was the load he used in his re-chambered M86 Winchester. It produced exactly 1,820fps. That speed, with the same 400gr. bullet can be produced in the Baikal .45/70 at 20,000PSI using today's powders. Advancements in powders have enabled us to produce velocities not dreamed of, just a few years ago.

We also know the .45/70, if loaded to 28,000PSI, will produce 2,000fps with 400gr. bullets - no you don't have to use the loads that require 40,000PSI, use the powders that give that velocity at the lower pressure - good grief!

I guess in Dugaboy's mind, the coastal bears, although very much smaller than in Harold Johnson's day, are very much tougher - or he thinks he needs the power to off-set poor shooting. One cannot come to any other conclusion.