Ray, I agree with you on English doubles, they are very nice and I do love them all, but for now I just can’t spend the $$$ on one, I find that my 470 shoot really nice with factory ammo, but not as nice as yours. What’s your load, I want to try it and see if my searcy can close the gap a bit. I have never loaded for rifles before just my hand guns so I’m new to rifle reloading, I can see it being much different. I’m still waiting on my brass, should be in this week so any advice would be helpful