No offense to you Holland DR guys..

There are prized for the calibres under 500, I was talking 'big bores' and all the H&H big bores I have had have come off face.

Call George Caswell he will tell you how soft they are. He told me a funny story as well. He had been invited to a formal dinner with the managing director of H&H years ago, and mentioned what I am discussing, the fellow completely agreed, and Caswell had a deluxe 577 I believe that you could watch a movie thru after 12 shots. There's never been a fix as far as I know, besides having them put back on face over and over..

The smith Ken Eversull is the best for such cases..