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ThomasEdwards: What I am saying is that you will have to try it and see if you like it better than the original. It pays to experiment, it may be much better, it may not be. Just don't trash your old pad until you determine if you like the new one or not. That is the mistake I made with my 416 - I put the old pad on my kids rifle when I put the new thick Kickeez on the 416. When I discovered I didn't like it, it was too late! RobertD |