Thats right and you don't have to convience me, plus the fact that I like that little tit on the top of the pad inletted into the stock, gives a bit of class to a stock and those harder pads sure do take the tight leather better....

If you hold a gun snug a recoil pad is of no particular use IMO....Lots more things I dislike about recoil than shoulder punch, which is the least of my concerns.....My second knuckle, my cheek and the head snap, and even jaw snap with some big bores, are my concerns. Makes money for Tylenol Inc.