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Caprivi, you are the first person I have ever met who was negative about Leupold. I think there is a lot of "snob" stuff about scopes, i.e. people looking down their noses at anything non Zeiss/Schmidt/Swarovski/Kahles. Don't get me wrong, I own some Zeiss binos and a Schmidt scope but if the truth be told I'm not sure I can tell the difference in optical quality between the Leupold VXIII I have and the Schmidt !! I don't know anyone else who could either. If you covered up the labels I wonder who could tell ? this is not to say that all other names are the same, I think Leupold are miles ahead of the other US stuff that I have seen. What put you off Leupold ?? best Mike |