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dugaboy... the chappuis is a good candidate... the francotte is, well, not.

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?????? #9 is a Chapuis,470NE and #17 is a Gibbs 450NE! If I had the $9800, the Gibbs would be in my safe, as we speak!

The Francotte is for the serious collector, or someone with more money than sense!