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Mike, They are loading their own brand of bullets at this time. http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=791 • DGS™ (Dangerous Game Solid) bullet features a blunt nose profile and a super tough alloy core to penetrate deeply through hide, muscle and bone. • DGX™ (Dangerous Game eXpanding) bullet expands up to 1.25 times the original diameter, and its tough alloy core resists deformation at all velocities. Yes I realise grafs and outhers are discounting them. This is what factorey list is. Mike do you have a sorce for Hornady? They should be able to get them. Bill |